Andrew Kuykendall
Those are good questions! With ruxolitinib, we have some data to look at as far as JAK inhibition. We know that when we're thinking about symptom responses, those typically occur quite quickly with ruxolitinib. We generally get a sense of spleen responses at around 12 weeks, where we're starting to see changes in the spleen volume; maximum spleen response may not occur until 24 weeks. With anemia responses in patients taking ruxolitinib, worsening of the anemia tends to happen in the first 4 to 8 weeks. So you can get a sense for anemia over the course of 2 months, spleen response at 3 months, and symptom response anywhere from days to weeks to months.
Momelotinib is going to be a bit different because it has a longer half-life, so I don't think we can expect the same timelines. If we're looking at symptom improvements, it may not be something we're seeing over the course of days to weeks—it may take a little bit longer. With momelotinib, these symptom scores may be helpful in that regard. When we started using ruxolitinib, we often didn't use the symptom scores in practice, because patients would come back in talking about how much better they felt immediately afterwards. But with more gradual or subtle symptom improvement—like we see with momelotinib—going forward, these symptom assessment forms may be more useful. Spleen responses, though, I would expect the same trends with both ruxolitinib and momelotinib—I would still expect to see those over the course of 3 to 6 months. Anemia responses may take longer. We know red blood cells last 90 days in circulation, and so seeing changes in anemia or hemoglobin is going to take a longer period of time. Even looking back at the pacritinib data, we saw that some of their achievement of transfusion independence was seen at 12 to 24 weeks, not within the first 12 weeks; I think we can expect similar trends with momelotinib, where we see a general, gradual improvement in hemoglobin and transfusion requirements.
To move onto your next question: when would I consider a momelotinib a “failure?” We don't know yet. I think that I would consider the same factors as ruxolitinib to make that assessment. I also think it depends on why the patient is starting the agent. If they’re starting it because they are transfusion-dependent or anemic and their transfusion requirements stay the same or worsen, then I would argue that I'm not sure exactly what it's doing there. The problem is you don't know whether they would have worsened more if you hadn't used momelotinib.
If they're still feeling well, we're in a similar situation as where we were with ruxolitinib before, where we don't have a great alternative for a second line of treatment. Pacritinib has an anemia benefit, but it is via the same mechanism of action as momelotinib, so I don't know if switching to that option is going to make a ton of sense. We also don't know about add-ons to momelotinib—that's really untested. The idea of adding danazol or an erythropoiesis-stimulating agent onto momelotinib is certainly something we have not tested, but it may be something we utilize down the road. We've kicked the can a little bit down the road to help with anemia—now we're going to have to kick it a little further if we can think about combinations with momelotinib.
If you switch to ruxolitinib or momelotinib and immediately, a patient’s spleen volume got worse or their symptoms got worse, I might call that a “failure” and go back to a JAK inhibitor that had given them better benefit. We've seen that with pacritinib and fedratinib when patients switch from ruxolitinib over to one of those agents—sometimes itching worsened, and so we had to switch back—but we haven’t had much experience with momelotinib yet. I will add that it’s really important to understand how patients are feeling on ruxolitinib before you switch therapies, and then to quickly assess if they feel worse, better, somewhat better, and look at counts as well. It’s important to really take the whole picture into account when you're considering continuing vs changing therapies.